Re: In response to your correspondence re PMRA and 2,4-D
       Date:  
            Tue, 17 May 2005 20:09:48 -0600
      From:
            Al Taylor
        To:
            ECD-DCHG3 <ecd-dchg3@hc-sc.gc.ca>, Minister-Health Canada
<Dosanjh.U@parl.gc.ca>
        CC:
            Ralph Goodale <Goodale.R@parl.gc.ca>
 References:
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Greetings;

Your statement,"The PMRA has determined, based on the available
scientific information, that 2,4-D can be used safely on lawns and turf
when label directions are followed" indicates that you have not bothered
to read my email.

You state "The United States Environmental Protection Agency's
re-evaluation published in January 2005, that indicated the risks
associated with 2,4-D lawn uses were acceptable." Perhaps you should read the news
and know that EPA is dominated by "Bush's Monsanto Men" so
relying on EPA for good science is like relying on the devil to produce
good and loving people.

I pointed out in my original email that the Ontario College of Family
Physicians found all pesticides to be dangerous. The Canadian Cancer
Society states that pesticides should not be used for cosmetic purposes.
The Canadian Institute for Child Health states that children should
not be exposed to pesticides like 2,4-D. The Quebec Institute of Health
has lead the fight to ban pesticides, like 2,4-D, in the whole province
of Quebec. All of these organizations, except Health Canada apparently,
are interested in my, and everyone else's health. Human health is
closely associated with the health of the environment. As the saying
goes, "It is possible to have sick people in a healthy environment but
it is impossible to have healthy people in a sick environment".  So why does
PMRA quote EPA instead of these trusted Canadian health
organizations? I believe it is because PMRA is more interested in the
economic health of the pesticide industry than it is in the health of
Canada's environment and it's citizens.

You state, "The PMRA convened a panel of independent scientific experts
to review its re-evaluation of 2,4-D."  Again you obviously didn't
read my email, decided to ignore it, or worse you are trying to defend
an indefensible position. To suggest to me, who has seen Dr. Keith
Solomon defend the pesticide industry, ad infinitum, you must take me to
be  completely uninformed. Dr. Solomon is employed by the
pesticide industry and has appeared across Canada as their mouth piece
and you have the gall to tell me the PMRA panel was made up of
"independent scientific experts." Give me a break!

You state, "The PMRA ... would like to convey that all registered
pesticides undergo a thorough science-based assessment and must meet
strict health and environmental standards before being approved for use
in Canada." I take it that you haven't bothered to read the 2004
Report of the Commissioner of Environment and Sustainable Development,
or any of the three previous Reports. I have. If ever an
organization has been found not to be carrying out it's mandate to
protect the public health and the environment, it is PMRA. Making such
an outlandish statement, in view of the evidence, tells me your letter is
PMRA propaganda and has very little to do with science. Of course, "Risk

Assessment" is not real science. It is voodoo science and nothing you
say can change that fact.

Finally, your answer did not deal with the Precautionary Principle (PP).
I can understand your reluctance because if PMRA used the PP you
would have had to ban 2,4-D. There is plenty of evidence "of harm" from
2,4-D and overwhelming evidence that "it may cause harm" that
applying the PP would mean doing away with 2,4-D.

I suggest PMRA read the Report of the Commissioner of the Environment
and Sustainable Development and instead of protecting the
economic interests of the pesticide industry PMRA start protecting the
public health and the environment. It is what you are being paid to do.

I expect an answer that will deal with the real issues I've raised and
not some spin that tries to cover up the problems of 2,4-D.

Thank you.

Yours truly,

Allan S. Taylor,
Regina, Sask.
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"To sin by silence, when they should protest,
  makes cowards of men."          Abraham Lincoln
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       ----- Original Message -----
       From: ECD-DCHG3
       To:
       Cc: Goodale.R@parl.gc.ca
       Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:01 AM
       Subject: In response to your correspondence


       Dear Mr. Taylor:

Thank you for your correspondence of February 25, 2005,
concerning the pesticide 2,4-D.  Your member of Parliament, the
Honourable Ralph Goodale, has also written on your behalf.  I regret the
delay in responding.

As you are aware, Health Canada's Pest Management
Regulatory Agency (PMRA), has conducted its re-evaluation of 2,4-D, a
herbicide commonly used to control weeds on lawn and turf.  The PMRA has
determined based on the available scientific information, that 2,4-D can be
used safely on lawns and turf when label directions are followed.

This recommendation concurs with the findings of regulators in
other OECD countries, the most recent being the United States
Environmental Protection Agency's re-evaluation published in January 2005, that
indicated the risks associated with 2,4-D lawn uses were acceptable.

The PMRA convened a panel of independent scientific experts to
review its re-evaluation of 2,4-D.  The scientific panel supports
the PMRA conclusions and proposal to continue registration of products
containing 2,4-D for lawn and turf uses.

Following review and consideration of comments and feedback
obtained during the 60-day consultation period, the final decision will be
communicated to stakeholders and the general public. The
consultation period ends on April 22, 2005.

The PMRA understands that the public may have concerns over
domestic uses of pesticides and would like to convey that all
registered pesticides undergo a thorough science-based assessment and must
meet strict health and environmental standards before being approved for use
in Canada.

 For further information on the re-evaluation of the lawn and turf uses of
2,4-D acetic acid, you may wish to visit the PMRA Web site at
http://www.pmra-arla.gc.ca/english/highlights/2005221-e.html.

Again, thank you for writing.

Yours sincerely,

Jonathan Moser
Policy Advisor - B.C. & West


       c.c.  Office of the Honourable Ralph Goodale, P.C., M.P.
       (See attached file: 05-002296-638.TIF)
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       Dear Ralph;

       The Pest Management Regulatory Agency (PMRA) recently released a
document that OKs the use of 2,4-D. Given the research
       I've done over the last three years I find the decision flies in
the face of ordinary intelligence and the science.

       - PMRA did not mention, and worse, did not use the Precautionary
Principle (PP) in making their decision. They found scientific
       literature that indicated there was harm, or may be harm, from
the use of 2,4-D but chose to ignore the science, and by doing so
       ignored the PP which has been enshrined into law by our Supreme
Court.

       - PMRA completely discounted the recent report by the Ontario
College of Physicians. The report showed positive links to all
       pesticides and many health problems, especially to our children.
They recommended that people should avoid all pesticides, not
       just 2,4-D, because of the numerous health problems associated
with the use of pesticides.

       - PMRA ignored the recommendations of the Canadian Cancer
Society, The Canadian Institute of Child Health, Canadian
       Association of Physicians for the Environment, The Canadian
Public Health Association, The Medical Health Officers of Halifax,
       Toronto and Vancouver, The Sierra Club, Canadian Wildlife
Federation, the World Wildlife Federation, The Federation of
       Canadian Municipalities plus the intelligence of the councils of
over 60 Canadian cities and towns that have banned the use of
       pesticides.

       - PMRA appointed a Committee that had Dr. Keith Solomon on it.
Dr. Solomon is a toxicologist that is employed by the
       pesticides industry and known Canada wide as a hired mouth piece
of the pesticide industry. Given Dr. Solomon's bias it isn't
       surprising that PMRA came out supporting the continued use of
2,4-D.

       - PMRA appears to only have looked at whether or not 2,4-D causes
cancer. They apparently did not assess 2,4-Ds affect on
       hormone development, childhood development, neurological
development or whether or not 2,4-D is associated with other kinds
       of epidemic illnesses such as childhood asthma.

       - PMRA has been found wanting on the last three audits by the
Commissioner for the Environment and Sustainable
       Development. She specifically said in Section 1.137, "The range
of weaknesses raises serious questions about the overall
       management of the health and environmental risks associated with
pesticides. AMEN!

       -PMRA is, and always has been, more interested in the health of
the pesticide industry than in the health of Canadians or the
       health of our environment. This latest recommendation just proves
it. Further proof is found in PMRAs decision re Mecoprop. It is
       de-registered because it can't meet regulations but is allowed to
stay on the market, if you can imagine, until Dec 31/09.

       Please take up this serious health issue with the Minister of
Health. He must force PMRA to adopt the PP as their guiding
       principle. In doing so PMRA will have to abandon the voodoo
science of "risk management" and "cost benefit" analysis as it's
       modus operandi. Abandoning voodoo science will mean that PMRA
will actually be forced to start protecting the health of
       Canadians and our environment which is their stated mandate.

       I recommend you advise the Minister of Health that if PMRA
doesn't change, their budget will be reduced to $1.00 in the next
       budget year.

       I would appreciate a reply.

       Thank you.

       Yours truly,

       Allan S. Taylor,
       Regina, Sask.
     
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